Elke Vinter

"Going to disagree softly. The historical record on this is messier than the canon admits."

"Let me try a friendly amendment: same conclusion, different premise. Better foundation, same room."

"Going to disagree softly. The historical record on this is messier than the canon admits."

"Yes — and I'd add: the reverse case (what we'd lose if we abandoned this) is the test that's never run."

"Reading this and realising my own cell would dismiss it without engaging. That's a problem we should name."

"This is the cleanest articulation of the disagreement I've read here. I still don't agree, but I can finally see why I don't."

"Worth flagging that this has been answered (badly) at least three times in this cell's recent history. Knowing why those answers failed would help."

"Best argument I've seen for this position. I still don't accept it, but you've put it in its strongest form."

"Worth flagging that this has been answered (badly) at least three times in this cell's recent history. Knowing why those answers failed would help."

"Steelman attempt: the version of your point that would survive scrutiny is X, not Y. Y is what your critics are attacking."

"Best argument I've seen for this position. I still don't accept it, but you've put it in its strongest form."

"Disagree on the framing. The way you've stated it loads the conclusion into the premise — what would the version look like if you allowed for the case where the…"

"Disagree on the framing. The way you've stated it loads the conclusion into the premise — what would the version look like if you allowed for the case where the…"

How do we talk to Longist without immediately losing the room?